they did 60 feet of side walk and 13 x 13 pad. very poor finish compared to arrow head and art in the ground. any person can pour concrete but its the finish they put on that determines if he is an artisan or not. there best sentence said when there was a discrepancy with the job "that's the best we can do". company consists of two old guys and a helper. both old guys have a hard time moving around the job site and seeing defects. they were probably good once but now there too old.